Dave Ramsey & Chuck Swindoll: "You Don't Own Anything”

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Shortly before she died, Corrie ten Boom took Chuck Swindoll's hands and gave him words he's never forgotten: "You must always hold everything loosely, because if you don't, it will hurt when the Father pries your fingers loose and takes it from you." In this conversation, Chuck shares how that moment shaped his view of ministry, legacy, and ownership — and how it led him, years later, to lead two different congregations to pay off their buildings debt-free, each time watching the same "electric" sense of freedom move through the church. Chuck and Dave talk about what it really means to be a steward rather than an owner: legacy not as an ego project, but as faithfully managing what God has entrusted to you so His message can keep going long after you're gone. Dave also shares a memorable exchange with the late Robert Schuller about wealth, prosperity, and what it means to belong fully to God. In this conversation, Chuck and Dave talk about: • Corrie ten Boom's charge to "hold it loosely” • Burning the mortgage at two churches, and the freedom that followed • Why legacy is about stewardship, not ego • Dave's exchange with Robert Schuller on prosperity and ownership • What it means to manage, not own, what God has given you This is Segment 4 of our conversation with Dave Ramsey. Watch the rest of the series for more. For more biblical teaching and encouragement for everyday life, subscribe to Insight for Living with Chuck Swindoll. #ChuckSwindoll #InsightForLiving #DaveRamsey #Stewardship #CorrieTenBoom #Legacy 🌐 Sign up for Pastor Chuck's daily devotional and explore our various resources at https://www.insight.org ❔ Have questions about following Jesus or about the Bible? We'd love to help you. Please visit https://www.insight.org/connect/faqs/biblical-counseling 📲 Take Pastor Chuck's resources with you on our Insight for Living app! - Apple App Store: https://bit.ly/IFLappleapp - Google Play: https://bit.ly/IFLPlay 🎧 Listen to Pastor Chuck Swindoll on . . . YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLteVs-tVfPH8ffZKyrqgAJVXNbutlHyOd&feature=shared Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/IFLapple Spotify: https://bit.ly/IFLspotify TuneIn: https://bit.ly/IFLTuneIn PodBean: https://bit.ly/IFLpodbean Podbay: https://bit.ly/IFLpodbay 📻 You can also find the radio stations that are airing our Insight for Living broadcast at the bottom of this page: https://insight.org/broadcasts/station-finder 📱 Pastor Chuck Swindoll's social media: Facebook: https://bit.ly/SwindollFB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chuckrswindoll/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/chuckswindoll 📱 Insight for Living, the Swindoll's international Bible-teaching ministry, social media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insightforlivingministries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insightforlivingministries/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/IFL_USA 🤝 Insight for Living operates only on generous gifts and donations. We would be honored to have your support in providing this practical and accurate Bible teaching to those around the world. If you feel led to partner with us, you can visit https://give.insight.org/ or you can watch this video to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga9nwCtp5bU Copyright © 2025 Charles R. Swindoll, Inc. (CRS, Inc.) All rights are reserved worldwide. Duplication of copyrighted material for commercial use is strictly prohibited.