Dave Ramsey and Chuck Swindoll on Money, Legacy, and Holding It All Loosely

About this sermon

Financial teacher and longtime friend Dave Ramsey joins Pastor Chuck Swindoll in our studio for this fourth episode of Living with Insight. Dave Ramsey built a real estate portfolio, lost it all to bankruptcy, and rebuilt his life on what Scripture says about money—founding Ramsey Solutions, Financial Peace University, and The Ramsey Show to help people handle their money according to biblical principles. But few know that Dave first met Chuck as a young believer in the 1980s. He found Insight for Living on the radio and ordered Insight for Living cassette tapes to listen to Chuck’s Bible teaching. Now the two sit down for a wide-ranging conversation covering: • Why the borrower is slave to the lender—and how debt freedom changes everything for a family or a ministry • How God surprisingly led them to start ministries and take them beyond anything they imagined • Why legacy is about stewardship, not ego—and the value of good succession planning • The thread of redemption that God weaves through every season, even the ones we think will ruin us Grab a seat and enjoy the conversation. #ChuckSwindoll #DaveRamsey #Ministry 🌐 Sign up for Pastor Chuck's daily devotional and explore our various resources at https://www.insight.org ❔ Have questions about following Jesus or about the Bible? We'd love to help you. Please visit https://www.insight.org/connect/faqs/biblical-counseling 📲 Take Pastor Chuck's resources with you on our Insight for Living app! - Apple App Store: https://bit.ly/IFLappleapp - Google Play: https://bit.ly/IFLPlay 🎧 Listen to Pastor Chuck Swindoll on . . . YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLteVs-tVfPH8ffZKyrqgAJVXNbutlHyOd&feature=shared Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/IFLapple Spotify: https://bit.ly/IFLspotify TuneIn: https://bit.ly/IFLTuneIn PodBean: https://bit.ly/IFLpodbean Podbay: https://bit.ly/IFLpodbay 📻 You can also find the radio stations that are airing our Insight for Living broadcast at the bottom of this page: https://insight.org/broadcasts/station-finder 📱 Pastor Chuck Swindoll's social media: Facebook: https://bit.ly/SwindollFB Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chuckrswindoll/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/chuckswindoll 📱 Insight for Living, the Swindoll's international Bible-teaching ministry, social media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insightforlivingministries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insightforlivingministries/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/IFL_USA 🤝 Insight for Living operates only on generous gifts and donations. We would be honored to have your support in providing this practical and accurate Bible teaching to those around the world. If you feel led to partner with us, you can visit https://give.insight.org/ or you can watch this video to learn more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga9nwCtp5bU Copyright © 2025 Charles R. Swindoll, Inc. (CRS, Inc.) All rights are reserved worldwide. Duplication of copyrighted material for commercial use is strictly prohibited.

Topics

• Money & Stewardship