The Latin Mass Is Not Going Away... and Here’s Why (Dr. Peter Kwasniewski) | Ep. 543

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In this interview, Matt talks with Dr. Peter Kwasniewski—author, lecturer, scholar and composer—about his (Dr. Kwasniewski's) first experience with the Traditional Latin Mass, and how it deeply impacted him and changed his understanding of what the Mass is all about. The conversation also touches on the beauty (and importance of) sacred music, the impacts of Vatican II upon the Church, and much, much more. Peter Kwasniewski's platforms: 🔴 Website: https://www.peterkwasniewski.com/ 🔴 Tradition & Sanity Substack: https://www.traditionsanity.com/ 🔴 Composer site: https://cantabodomino.com/ 🔴 Publishing: https://osjustipress.com/ 🎦 YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/DrKwasniewski 🔴 Pelican+ (launching October 7): https://pelicanplus.com/ Three of Dr. Kwasniewski's books on the TLM: 📚 Turned Around: Replying to Common Objections Against the Traditional Latin Mass https://tanbooks.com/products/books/turned-around-replying-to-common-objections-against-the-traditional-latin-mass/ 📚 Once and Future Roman Rite: Returning to the Traditional Latin Liturgy after Seventy Years of Exile https://tanbooks.com/products/books/the-once-and-future-roman-rite-returning-to-the-traditional-latin-liturgy-after-seventy-years-of-exile/ 📚 Close the Workshop: Why the Old Mass Isn’t Broken and the New Mass Can’t Be Fixed https://angelicopress.com/products/close-the-workshop-peter-kwasniewski 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 https://mattfradd.locals.com/support 💵 Show Sponsors: 👉 College of St. Joseph the Worker: https://www.collegeofstjoseph.com/mattfradd 👉 Truthly – The Catholic faith at your fingertips: https://www.truthly.ai/ 👉 Hallow – The #1 Catholic prayer app: https://hallow.com/mattfradd  💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas 🎵 TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas 👕 PWA Merch – Wear the Faith! Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com 00:00 Intro 03:21 Dr. Kwasniewski’s experience in the Charismatic movement 08:47 Discovering philosophy and going to Georgetown University 17:11 Thomas Aquinas College and the Catholic University of America 20:15 The International Theological Institute and Wyoming Catholic College 22:23 Sustaining faith at Georgetown 24:02 How Dr. Kwasniewski first heard of the Latin Mass 34:20 Feeling robbed of a great liturgical heritage 36:45 Dr. Kwasniewski discovers Gregorian chant 43:05 Differences between the High Mass and the Solemn High Mass 47:22 What set the stage for the liturgical revolution 52:44 What happened at Vatican II 58:48 Who was Archbishop Bugnini? 59:52 Communion in the hand 1:12:32 Receptivity and Tradition 1:17:47 Is the Novus Ordo really a return to the Early Church’s worship? 1:35:13 When Latin came into the liturgy 1:43:20 Why change what the Church accepts? 1:55:04 Is the Novus Ordo salvageable? 1:59:59 What actually did Pope Paul VI approve? 2:07:10 Have there been any past liturgical reforms that were later repealed? 2:18:43 Haven’t past popes and councils changed the liturgy? 2:27:33 The dangers of Trad cynicism 2:40:35 Questions from Matt’s priest friends 2:55:25 Motivations of the liturgical reformers 3:00:36 Growing interest in the Latin Mass among young Catholics 3:12:01 What would Dr. Kwasniewski do if Pope Leo asked for his help? 3:26:46 First-time experiences of the Latin Mass 3:32:49 Differences between organic development and rupture 3:44:25 Dr. Kwasniewski’s new book