Moving From Insider to Outsider

About this sermon

Isn’t it fun to be part of the in-crowd? Where you can connect with people who are of like minds and spirits, where everyone seems to be headed in the same direction? But what if you start having nagging questions as an insider that don’t seem to get resolved, and even worse, are met with disdain or fear from other members of your group? This can be a scary place for so many of us. For the purposes of our conversation today–we’re talking about when it happens in religious spaces. For years, singer/songwriter Derek Webb was very much on the “inside” of what was happening in Christendom as a top selling, award winning Christian artist, songwriter and worship leader. It took a few disruptions to his own life that sent him down the road to evaluating his faith, his beliefs and how he wanted to move forward with the new information he’d gained. Now, decidedly an “outsider” who tries to still take up space in the Christian zeitgeist to potentially model a different way of living, Derek has gone on to record solo albums and also work with artists that aren’t typical to Christian music–like drag queen Flamy Grant—with whom, incidentally, he attended the Gospel Music Dove Awards in 2023 (and who also had a number one Christian song pop up on the charts), with the intention of making people who are Christian and LGBTQ+IA feel less alone. In this episode, Jen and Derek compare their journeys as “peaceful disruptors,” what it cost them and what they gained in the process. * * * #ForTheLove #ForTheLovePodcast #JenHatmaker _________ CHECK OUT Resources Mentioned in This Episode: ➤ Caedmon’s Call - https://www.caedmonscall.com/ ➤ Aaron Tate’s Website - https://aarontatemusic.com/ ➤ Second Baptist Church - https://www.second.org/ ➤ She Must and Shall Go Free - Album by Derek Webb - https://music.apple.com/ca/album/she-must-and-shall-go-free/1545539040 ➤ Essential Records - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_Records_(Christian) ➤ Third Day - https://www.thirdday.com/ ➤ Jars Of Clay - https://www.jarsofclay.com/ ➤ Plumb - https://www.instagram.com/plumbmusic/?hl=en ➤ The Prayer of Jabez - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prayer_of_Jabez ➤ Wedding Dress by Derek Webb - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhDrzuKza4 ➤ Grace Point Church - https://www.gracepointe.net/ ➤ The Jesus Hypothesis - https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-jesus-hypothesis/1678827312 ➤ Boys Will Be Girls Music Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naFip5VH1kM ➤ Grace Semler Baldridge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semler_(musician) ➤ Flamy Grant Instagram - https://bit.ly/3RTO9DM ➤ Drag Queen at Christian Music Awards Sparks Backlash (Newsweek Article) - https://www.newsweek.com/drag-queen-christian-music-awards-sparks-backlash-1835922 CONNECT with Our Guest! ➤ Website: https://www.derekwebb.com/home ➤ Facebook: http://facebook.com/derekwebb ➤ Instagram: http://instagram.com/derekwebb ➤ Twitter: http://twitter.com/derekwebb ➤ TikTok: http://tiktok.com/@derekwwebb ➤ YouTube: http://youtube.com/user/derekwebb ➤ Patreon: http://patreon.com/derekwebb ___ ➤ JEN HATMAKER BOOK CLUB - Join the sisterhood! https://jenhatmakerbookclub.com ___ WATCH more videos from Jen: ➤ For the Love of Small Wins series: https://bit.ly/FTLsmallwins ➤ For the Love of The Enneagram series: https://bit.ly/FTLenneagram ➤ Happy Hour: http://bit.ly/JensHappyHour ➤ Monday Mornings with Jen: http://bit.ly/MondayMorningsJen ___ CONNECT with Jen! ➤ FOLLOW Jen on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker ➤ FOLLOW Jen on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ ➤ LIKE Jen on Facebook: https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker ➤ SUBSCRIBE NOW on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker?sub_confirmation=1 ➤ VISIT: http://jenhatmaker.com/ ___ For more “For the Love” . . . ➤ SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/FTLPodcastApple ➤ LISTEN on Spotify: http://bit.ly/FTLPodcastSpotify ➤ HEAR IT on Stitcher: http://bit.ly/FTLPodcastStitcher ➤ LISTEN on iHeartRadio: http://bit.ly/FTLPodcastiHeart