Choice Meat & Bad Form: Rebuttal of James White
- Preacher
- Dr Leighton Flowers
- Tradition
- Christian (Unspecified)
- Published
- Length
- 1:09:53
About this sermon
Time-Stamps: 2:34 - James White clip begins 3:29 - James White plays the 44-second clip of Dr. Flowers 3:51 - White's Either/Or Fallacy - Either Exegesis Or Analogy - Flowers gives Analogy 'after' Exegesis. 6:52 - Flowers' Choice Meat Analogy - In the analogy, Flowers' emphasizes 'choice' as an adjective, even though 'exegetically' it's both a verb and an adjective. 7:46 - 18:38 - The 44-second clip in context: God shows 'favor' to those who have faith (faith is not meritorious). 19:02 - 29:52 - White's fallacious critique of Choice Meat analogy: we go to Heaven because we're better. Flowers' Answer: It's conditional on our admitting that we're NOT choice meat; THEN, God shows favor on those who admit that we're NOT choice meat (admitting isn't meritorious). 26:29 - Christ is the ONLY Choice Meat (He is righteous). After we're IN CHRIST, by admitting we're NOT choice meat, we 'become' choice meat (clothed in the righteousness of Christ) by grace through faith (not meritorious). 29:53 - 51:12 - White's interaction with Kevin's video in response to White's charge to demonstrate how White is pejorative in his responses sometimes. Begins at 32:32 - White plays only the two most benign examples. White confuses critical thinking with the pejorative delivery of such critical thinking. 52:59 - White's double-standard - When Flowers is accused of misrepresentation, he has taken the correction; White has not. When Flowers is reprimanded for being pejorative, he has admitted his error; White has not. 58:25 - Flowers' plea that we need to set a better example of how two brothers in Christ can disagree while being Christ-like. Dr. Leighton Flowers, Director of Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists, calls out James White on his double standards and misrepresentations regarding a clip plucked from its context, which you can read more about on Dr. Flower’s blog here: https://soteriology101.com/2019/06/18/choice-meat-bad-form/ To hear the original broadcast where Dr. Flowers confronts RC Sproul’s view of unconditional election go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJPPQbJKZA&t=2202s To SUPPORT this broadcast please click here: https://soteriology101.com/support/ To ORDER Dr. Flowers Curriculum “Tiptoeing Through Tulip” please click here: https://soteriology101.com/shop/ To listen to the audio only be sure to subscribe on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play or one of the other podcast players found here: https://soteriology101.com/home/ For more about Traditionalism (or Provisionism) please visit www.soteriology101.com Dr. Flowers’ book, “The Potter’s Promise” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Potters-Promise-Biblical-Traditional-Soteriology/dp/0692561846/ref=nodl_ Dr. Flowers’ book, “God’s Provision for All” can be found here: https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Provision-All-Defense-Goodness-ebook/dp/B07PLL85Y6/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2BQ08Y6XOZV5S&keywords=leighton+flowers&qid=1556650306&s=gateway&sprefix=leighton%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-2 To engage with other believers cordially join our Facebook group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/1806702782965265/?ref=group_header&view=group For updates and news follow us at: www.facebook/Soteriology101 Or @soteriology101 on Twitter Please SHARE on Facebook and Twitter and help spread the word! To become a Patreon supporter or make a one time donation: https://soteriology101.com/support/
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