Billy Graham's Secret | Greg Laurie & Chuck Swindoll

About this sermon

For generations, Pastor Chuck Swindoll has helped millions of people understand Scripture with wisdom, warmth, and clarity. In this special conversation, Pastor Greg Laurie sits down with one of his lifelong heroes—not simply to conduct an interview, but to learn from a pastor whose ministry, leadership, and integrity has shaped the church for decades. Together they reflect on the experiences that form faithful servants of God. Pastor Greg shares his unlikely journey from a broken childhood to a lifetime of ministry, while Pastor Chuck offers a profound perspective on preaching, humility, suffering, leadership, and what it means to finish well.  More than an interview, this is a candid conversation between two preachers—one drawing out the hard-earned wisdom of another whose life has been marked by grace, endurance, and unwavering faithfulness. In this interview you'll hear: How God prepared two very different men for ministry Chuck Swindoll's timeless wisdom on preaching and shepherding God's people Greg's testimony of coming to Christ during the Jesus Movement Lessons learned from Billy Graham and Chuck Smith Why suffering often produces deeper compassion in those God uses most A moving discussion about grief, faith, and finding hope in life's hardest moments Don't miss Part 2 of this conversation next week! Subscribe to The Greg Laurie Show for weekly, inspiring conversations.  Timestamps 02:38 Meeting a living legend 06:34 Growing up with an alcoholic mother 09:44 The Jesus Movement and coming to Christ 15:46 First Bible study becomes a church 19:56 From aspiring cartoonist to preacher 22:47 Billy Graham's secret: studying to be simple 26:13 How evangelism has changed 28:54 Chuck Smith's push toward stadium crusades 33:14 Meeting Kathy 36:34 Losing their son Christopher 38:58 "Hurt him deeply" — the making of a shepherd 47:12 Stay surprised, stay out of the way ___________________________________________________________________________________ Thank you for watching! Be sure to like and subscribe so you are notified as soon as a new video arrives. Get exclusive content on the Harvest+ Streaming App, including Harvest Films, TV shows and hundreds of messages from Pastor Greg Laurie. Available on Apple iOS, Android, Roku, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Google TV, and Samsung TV! Watch here: https://watch.harvest.org/ To support the ministry of Pastor Greg Laurie and help us continue to reach people with the life-changing message of Jesus Christ, visit here https://harvest.org/donate/