August 2025: Catherine Newman’s Sandwich

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“How did I not know this stuff? I thought menopause really was the cessation of your period… Not that you stepped off this train and entered this hellscape.” – Catherine Newman Author Catherine Newman joins Jen to talk about her hilarious and heartfelt novel Sandwich — our August JHBC book pick that has captured readers everywhere. With her trademark wit and honesty, Catherine explores what it means to live in the Sandwich Generation — raising kids who are becoming adults while caring for aging parents, all while navigating the rollercoaster of menopause. It’s funny, raw, and painfully true to life. In this conversation, Jen and Catherine dive into: • The joys and heartache of watching children grow up while parents age • How menopause reshapes our bodies, minds, and relationships • The humor and humanity in life’s messiest middle years • The real-life stories and experiences that inspired Sandwich Catherine’s storytelling makes us laugh through the tears, reminding us that even in the most “grinding and plotless” seasons, there is connection, beauty, and joy. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Sandwich by Catherine Newman – https://amzn.to/453PEqI Carolyn Chute, novelist – https://amzn.to/3UUlC2x Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel – https://amzn.to/4fl7vNa The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan – https://amzn.to/4myJ0i1 Awake: A Memoir by Jen Hatmaker – https://amzn.to/4ooXToI Wreck: A Novel by Catherine Newman – https://amzn.to/3UgzO5W We All Want Impossible Things: A Novel by Catherine Newman –https://amzn.to/40RKfk1 Writers & Lovers: A Novel by Lily King – https://amzn.to/4oq5CTI Heart the Lover by Lily King – https://amzn.to/4m0L0Qb Wild Dark Shore: A Novel by Charlotte McConaghy – https://amzn.to/46FLMNR The River is Waiting: A Novel by Wally Lamb – https://amzn.to/3UOlVfm Guest’s Links: Website - https://www.catherinenewmanwriter.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/catherinewman/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/catherine.newman.56 Substack - https://cronesandwich.substack.com/ Connect with Jen! Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.